Volcanoes
Episode 5
January 8, 2026
In this episode Ian and Justine discuss some of the world’s mightiest and most spectacular forces of nature - Volcanoes! Join them as they ponder the awe inspiring, and often terrifying majesty of these earthly titans, and re-live their own journeys to the greatest sound and light shows our looney planet has to offer. It’s guaranteed to be a blast.
Chapters
00:00 — Volcanoes!
01:53 — Mt. Yasur: Ian’s first, and it nearly killed him
07:40 — Where is this guy, Frum?
10:30 — Cotopaxi: Altitude Sickness
19:53 — Mount St. Helens: Sami Sabiti vs. the mountain
21:50 — Kilimanjaro: Better than sex?
27:53 — Kick-‘Em-Jenny: Justine and boats
33:05 — A shitty day in Paradise
34:49 — Pacaya: Toxic gasses?
36:53 — Pompei: Ash-covered mold of a human
40:52 — Mount St. Helens revisited: The Survivor
43:44 — Iceland, 2010
44:57 — Krakatoa: Red Volcanic Aerosol Cloud and The Scream
47:09 — Bringing Earth to the Earth
49:04 — Credits
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Ian. Yes! It's so good to see you again.
Yay! We're back again. And today, Ian,
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what are we talking about today? I
mean, you've seen so many of them,
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you can probably imitate them.
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I think it's
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[volcano sound effect]
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[more dramatic volcano sound effects]
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Volcanoes. Volcanoes today. That's good.
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That's good. That was good.
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[intro] Hi, I'm Ian. I'm Justine.
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Back in the '90s, we hosted Lonely Planet,
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also known
as Globe Treker or Pilot Guides.
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Now, we're back. Welcome to our Looney Planet with Ian and Justine.
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Yeeha! Woohoo!
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First of all, let me just tell the viewers and listeners who are watching this, we
are not volcanologists.
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You will learn nothing about volcanoes today except how mere mortals like
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Ian and I survived getting really pretty close to them
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and on top of them and all of that, right?
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Kind of want to set up expectations here.
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Yeah, I think we lost that in the first series. Don't worry about that.
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I think there's something that doesn't shout out "expert" for the pair of us. Yeah.
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I just can't believe how close we got to stuff.
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I mean, especially when you're climbing an active
volcano that's, you know, perhaps dormant in the
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moment. There's always that feeling like-
it could blow at any time. There's an absurd
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extreme absurd danger element involved in it which you
can't you cannot cater for and cannot do anything
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about. You know, I think that's part of the appeal. When you first see one, I
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think it was South Pacific was the first time I
saw a volcano when I was doing the show.
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And it's that shape, isn't it? That you know
the classic, that-
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conical snow capped shape. Yeah.
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Ian (VO): Morning. In fact, it's 6:00 in the morning and
I'm flying to Vanoatu.
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It was time to move on to
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the island of Tanna.
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Tanna is dominated by
the massive Yasa volcano. It is still active and no matter where you are on the island, your
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clothes and skin get covered in black dust.
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And they was like, "it's the most accessible and the
most active volcano in the world."
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And I'm like, everyone says that, but this one
was out of fucking control, honestly.
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It was almost like you parked your car
at a park and ride right next to the
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volcano. "This way into the volcano"
and we all got out and was like,
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"Okay." And the lit was just there and it
was like, "Yeah, just like it's a, you know,
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15-20 minute walk up there. Up you go." And
then you hear rumbling and smoke coming out
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the top of it. And you haven't even got, you
know, you've only just got out the car.
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Wow.
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And then we got to the end
of the lip and it was like, oh my god, it was like a perfect
circle there.
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This was like from a film
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like the Land Time for Forgot, that
film, dinosaurs flying around and all that.
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But it was... it is just like a film. It's
just mind-blowing, you know. Oh man.
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And also, you've never seen a color like that in
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your life. It's like, it was
like a living color.
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So, you've got this thing that is just
bubbling like that and you're like, "Look,
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that that one there, there." And it
just sort of like slow motion. It
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almost opens up and all the oranges, reds,
yellow, and a fire and just suddenly goes [explosion noise]
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in the air and you're like waaah, and the sound
is like, the sound man's like that is so loud!
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The sound guy's like bleeding from
the ears, right?
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Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah.
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And all the lava's in the air, splatters
on the side of the the cone and stuff
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and you're just like, God, there's
nothing like it. It's just insane.
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And I remember we stayed there and it was
getting dark and they were saying well cuz
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all the lava splattered on the other side
like south of the crater because that's
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where the wind was going. But as the time-
we didn't realize, we just like kids. "Come on!"
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"Let's just stay for the last big one." Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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Like fireworks or something.
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Oh god. Yeah. Yeah. By then we was like [excited noises]
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and then there was like [volcano noises] like we were like [excited noises]
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and what happened, because it
cooled down so they were getting more violent
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plus the wind had changed that we didn't even
realize. So, we was all like, "Look at that!"
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Just bits. And I swear to God, there was
a bit of lava about that big. Molten lava
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that missed us by about I'd say a
meter, even less. We were just like
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and we all just looked at each other and was
like run just like scared rabbits. And then
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another explosion went off and we was like I had
the tripod and I was like this not me take her.
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It's like as if a tripod is really going to
save you from molten lava. Like oh yeah knock
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that off. And then we was just running down
the mountain and I remember director going
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"keep to the path keep to the-" like fuck the path!
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But it was the most... obviously
it added to everything once we were safe. We were just
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like it was just so mental. It's just like so you know running from lava nearly getting
hit by lava.
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And then the only thing that I regret is that I should have sneaked over
to the molten lava that was on the ground and
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got my elbow and just like had a like a designer
molten lava burn right there and I wouldn't tell
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anyone. I'd just be in the pub and I'll be like,
"What's that? What? What's that on your arm?" Oh,
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that didn't I- Oh, yeah. I just got just got
hit by lava when I was in active volcano.
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the South Pacific. Don't worry about that stuff." Yeah.
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Yeah. Like a real cocky asshole, yeah.
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But that was my first experience with volcanoes.
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And that's-
-and it nearly killed you!
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I mean, honestly, it nearly killed you.
So, yeah. Which
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would have been a great story. Imagine the viewers
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for that. Woo.
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Took his face off. Yeah. No, just
just insane.
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What do you remember of that town that was in the foothills of the the volcano
in Vanuatu?
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I would use the term "town" quite loosely. There was a hut there. I think I seem to remember.
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Ian VO: In the shadow of the volcano is Sulfur Bau
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home to the John Frum Cargo Cult. The John
Frum Cult started in 1940 when a group of carver
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drinkers saw a spirit emerged from the sea who
promised them great wealth if they denounced the
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Christian ways of the missionaries. A year later,
American troops arrived with endless supplies of
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weapons, Coca-Cola, and cigarettes, confirming
the spirit's prophecy. Now they're waiting for
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John Frum's second coming.
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And it was so bizarre
that it was like, are they making it up as a joke
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or something? So they would- the the story went
that they someone came to them in a dream or
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they've been on the old [indicates drugs] or something and that
a guy said "oh you know you're going to get lots of
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wealth soon and you know, worship me and this will
happen" and and he was vaguely dressed up like a GI
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Joe you know, like an American soldier and then of course-
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-This is John Frum?
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John Frum, yes. Yeah.
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Yeah, that was it. I was like, John Frum, where did they
get that name from?
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But so they then for years and years and worshiped this god.
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They had effigies of
him. You know, they were Christian before, but he was on the cross and that
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and then of course
it would have been the second world war?
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I would have thought that then the soldiers, obviously, a
lot American soldiers just did turn up and the had chocolate,
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Coca-Cola and all these sort of shiny
things. And of course then everyone went, "Oh my
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god, the prophecy's come true." So it's madness.
Absolute madness.
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So yeah, I couldn't make head or tail. And I think there's still about 500 of them
there now that still believe. I think most of them
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gone back to Christianity, you know. Don't know
which one's which.
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Do you remember the person in the village who sang the hymn to you?
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I remember
his hairstyle.
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Ian VO: I was shown around the village by Willie,
whose grandfather saw the vision of John Frum.
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He sang me one of the village's hymns.
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[singing]
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Right. Old 70s afro. What a- [boing sound effect].
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With a big sort
of ginger streak in it.
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Yeah, I remember the song. I didn't didn't understand one word of
it, but yeah,
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He had a beautiful voice.
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Yeah, it was quite a melodic sound, but the whole
thing was quite bizarre.
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So, Vanuatu was your first volcano.
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We did so many firsts, you know, as
young people hosting that show. Yeah. Right. So,
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one of the firsts for me was climbing up
an active volcano, I think the second tallest in
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the world, at Cotopaxi in Ecuador.
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I knew it was
coming up and so during the shoot, you know, I'd meet other Ecuadorians and and travelers
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and I'd ask them about it because I was quite nervous about it.
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I bet.
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Cuz the summit's at 19 - 000 ft.
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So as I came across Ecuadorians and travelers, I'd always say, "Oh, have any of you ever climbed
Cotopaxi?"
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And what I kept hearing from people is
"oh you might get altitude sickness."
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I've had some experience with altitude sickness here. I don't think I gave myself
enough time to acclimate
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and you did too trying to climb in Imbabura.
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When we went on Imbabura, I crapped
out on Imbabura cuz I got kind of sick on the way
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up and actually passed out for a little while, took a
little nap.
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So that's one of the reasons we didn't think that we could climb Cotopaxi at this time.
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And I was like, "Oh, what can I do to prepare for it?" And they were like,
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you know, you could bring
a sugar bar with you or something, but the fact is
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nobody knows who gets altitude sickness.
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Sugar bar! Yeah.
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Right. Like what one guide said to me that one of the travelers who he was with, she was
older, not in great shape,
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bit overweight. She did fine.
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Whereas like a couple of the young guys in
the 20s, really fit, they got altitude sickness.
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So I knew that I had absolutely no control
over whether I would get it or not. And I wasn't
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sure if I would get it or not cuz I'd never been
that high up before.
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So we ended up in this little town sort of, you know, like 3/4 of the way into
the shoot, little town called Baños.
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Justine VO: Baños is popular with travelers from both Ecuador and
abroad. Although surprisingly the atmosphere is unspoiled.
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Really sweet town with baños, with
warm water pools and it was like this really
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relaxing spot. It's just gorgeous and quiet and
calm. And there was an indigenous uprising in
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the villages around Baños and protesting
the government taking more and more of
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their land.
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Ecuador's Indians prefer to be called
indigenous people. The majority are Ketwa speaking
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descendants of the Inca. They're peasant farmers
and most live in abject poverty. Today in Alausi,
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they're on strike.
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Aggrieved by recent land
reforms and rising food and gas prices,
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they're protesting in the towns and blocking roads
all over the country.
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I don't think I belong here. I think I'm going to get out of here if I can.
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I don't think there are any buses leaving, though.
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And the roadways were all covered with
trees that had been felled to block traffic,
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to block the military, tires that were set
afire. And we were supposed to be in Baños for
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one night. Very rarely on a Globe Trekker shoot
would you be someplace more than one night, right?
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And then the indigenous uprising occurred
and we weren't able to leave Baños for 3
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days which worked out really well because
Carlos and I were falling in love.
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it was cuz the altitude sickness was fine!
And then you were like rumping the camera, the sound man?
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So our team was in Baños. We couldn't leave
it. It was this bucolic, beautiful setting.
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I was so happy that we were stranded there. And...
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but then we had to finish the shoot and
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the two things left on the shoot was the Amazon
which is sea level and below, and Cotopaxi which
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is at its summit 19 - 000 ft. So we were supposed
to have 3 days in the base camp at Cotopaxi to
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acclimatize before we ascended. Right?
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So we go to the Amazon. We do our shoot in the Amazon.
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A very sensual jungle experience.
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And we have
to hightail it to Cotopaxi
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because we have to wrap the show the next day.
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We have to push the
show all the way to the end cuz we were stranded in Baños.
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So we finish the shoot in the Amazon.
We get on a military aircraft that flies us to Quito.
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We get in a car. We drive to base camp-
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to the parking lot at Cotopaxi. Right?
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The van unpacks at about 15 - 000 ft.
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We walk another thousand feet up to like 16 - 000
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to the refuge, to the base camp there.
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This is the refuge. It's about a 45 minute to an
hour walk from the parking lot.
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And Ivonne has gone in to make some dinner.
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It's about 6:00 right now
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And we know that we have to be up at 2:00 a.m. Wow.
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Right. We got 8 hours between
arriving and having to start the climb.
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Really? It's insane.
Right.
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And the thing is
with Cotopaxi and I think, you know, a lot of
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snow covered mountains at a certain point in the
late afternoon, the snow starts melting, right, and
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because the volcano is all ash, you know, the snow
comes down really really fast. So, you got to get
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off the top of the volcano before the snow starts
melting.
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So, we see these three Spanish climbers
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who have been there already three nights. They're
professional climbers with, you know, snowshoes,
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ice pick, serious climbers. They've been there
three days acclimatizing for this ascent. We rock
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up at around 6:00 at night. Nice. and our producer
and Carlos, our soundman, two strong people,
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before I knew it, they were on the floor. They'd
gotten altitude sickness. They couldn't move. So,
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they were kind of catatonic on the
floor, and the only way to get out of having
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altitude sickness is to go down as slowly and
steadily as you possibly can. But they they
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couldn't even move at that point. So the Spanish
climbers are finishing up their dinner looking at
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us like we're completely crazy because they've
been there three nights waiting to acclimatize.
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The poncy film crew are here!
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Disdain!
And they're right!
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Completely right.
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Well, when they told me that this was their third night, I was like, are
we doing this?
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Should we be doing this? Like maybe we shouldn't be doing this.
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They're like, no, no,
no. We're going to do it. We're going to do it.
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And then Carlos and Cass, the producer, they
go down. And I'm like, maybe we shouldn't be
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doing this. Anyway, 1, 2 a.m. Me, Peter Boyd Maclean, the director. John is the cameraman.
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We've had no time to acclimatize. We start
climbing from 16 - 000. The summit is at 19 - 000.
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Justine VO: You have to start the climb in the dark. In
order to avoid the late afternoon melting snows,
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you need an experienced guide,
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krampons on your boots to grip the
ice, an ice pick, and lots of stamina.
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Scaling Ecuador's giant cone
volcanoes has attracted and
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challenged mountaineers from all over the world.
0:18:15.040 - 0:18:25.360
We're going to climb to the top. Yeah. Yes. What's
the altitude here? 5 - 000. 5 - 000 m. Exactly. This
0:18:25.360 - 0:18:31.600
is the highest I've ever been in my life. Very
good for you. How many times have you been to the
0:18:31.600 - 0:18:36.458
top? 62 times. This could be my 63.
0:18:36.458 - 0:18:39.002
And it was
really strange. I mean, I felt good.
0:18:39.002 - 0:18:42.750
Peter Boyd Maclean did really well until the end.
0:18:42.750 - 0:18:45.004
The cameraman
did really well until the end and then
0:18:45.004 - 0:18:54.535
we got to like 18,500 feet. Yeah. And we didn't get to
19 - 000 because the snow started melting.
0:18:54.535 - 0:18:58.190
You know, I think shooting and carrying all the gear just
slowed us down.
0:18:58.190 - 0:19:01.947
Justine VO: At 18 - 000 ft. We stopped just short of the summit.
0:19:02.333 - 0:19:09.298
Justine (present-day VO): But I'll never forget
being at like 18 - 000 feet with my ice picks and my
0:19:09.298 - 0:19:18.160
snowshoes freezing and looking down the volcano
down the side of the mountain and Peter Boyd and
0:19:18.160 - 0:19:20.461
the cameraman are like [panting]
0:19:20.895 - 0:19:25.999
Yeah, yeah!
it was just like, you know,
John the cameraman trying to get up the hill and
0:19:26.240 - 0:19:32.400
Peter Boyd like pushing him up and then they took
turns and then Peter Boyd had the camera and John
0:19:32.400 - 0:19:41.440
was pushing him up. They didn't bring the tripod for
that. Yeah. No. Good. Cuz Oh my gosh. I mean, just
0:19:41.440 - 0:19:50.000
looking down on them, they look so withered. Yeah.
Finished. I mean, it looked so tough and you're
0:19:50.000 - 0:19:56.960
just plodding along. And that ice is ridiculous.
There's this amazing scene where Sammy Sabiti
0:19:56.960 - 0:20:02.404
he was hosting the Pacific Northwest show and
he's climbing to the summit of Mount St. Helen's
0:20:07.280 - 0:20:10.640
Right. This is the edge of the
tree line. Beyond this point,
0:20:10.640 - 0:20:13.611
it's pretty much just rocks and gravel.
0:20:25.680 - 0:20:30.560
Sammy VO: Any hopes I had of the weather remaining
good, had dashed. Out of nowhere,
0:20:30.560 - 0:20:35.440
clouds roll in and I'm suddenly in the
middle of a blizzard. This is starting
0:20:35.440 - 0:20:40.960
to feel a bit like Mission Impossible
now. I've reached the edge of the snow
0:20:40.960 - 0:20:48.721
line and as you can see it's snowing.
Bit of hail. It's really really cold.
0:20:51.280 - 0:20:57.520
My fingers are numb. And I
still got 1500 ft to the top.
0:20:57.520 - 0:21:05.040
The only way to keep warm is to keep on going.
0:21:05.040 - 0:21:09.515
Justine VO: It was really bad weather.
He didn't have a guide.
0:21:13.280 - 0:21:15.821
Justine VO: I couldn't believe he reached the top.
0:21:15.821 - 0:21:19.681
Sammy is really strong,
but he was he was folding.
0:21:22.240 - 0:21:32.800
Well, I made it. This is the edge of the volcano crater.
I can't go any further. It's really, really,
0:21:32.800 - 0:21:38.960
really cold up here. The wind is absolutely
howling. There's ice everywhere. I can hardly
0:21:38.960 - 0:21:41.918
talk. I'm sure I'm not making any sense right now.
0:21:42.497 - 0:21:49.497
And I just kept thinking about, oh my gosh, I wonder how the cameraman or camera
woman was holding up.
0:21:49.497 - 0:21:51.886
Do you have a memory when
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you're climbing Mount Kilimanjaro, of looking at
the camera person and the director and
0:21:58.800 - 0:22:00.339
the sound?
0:22:00.339 - 0:22:04.091
What they were going through while you
were going through what you were going through?
0:22:04.091 - 0:22:09.202
I think we was all... I think to be honest we was
all in the same boat.
0:22:09.202 - 0:22:10.963
If I was suffering
0:22:10.963 - 0:22:13.207
then the few people would be suffering even more.
0:22:13.207 - 0:22:17.810
Gosh.
Cuz they're carrying that tripod.
Well,
0:22:17.810 - 0:22:22.480
no. But I'll tell you what, just to add to it.
Yeah. No, they're not. The porters are carrying
0:22:22.480 - 0:22:28.080
it. I've got a bag this big on my back and I'm
like, "Oh, it's so heavy." And then the porter's
0:22:28.080 - 0:22:36.000
walking back with the camera in a case this big in
a pair of Wellington boots. "All right there?" You know,
0:22:36.000 - 0:22:41.440
"how you doing?" Slap me on the back. And I'm like,
I can't hardly walk. And he's just dancing. I've got all
0:22:41.440 - 0:22:47.360
me bloody Gortex Nortex on, you know, the super
climbing jacket, all my things. He's in a pair
0:22:47.360 - 0:22:53.120
of wellies and shorts and he's got the camera
the size of a small town going past me going oh
0:22:53.120 - 0:23:00.000
yeah you're right in we're nearly there just like
but that's porters I mean they are just trucking.
0:23:00.000 - 0:23:01.789
Right, you had had porters in Kilimanjaro.
0:23:01.789 - 0:23:06.141
Ian VO: It's over 19 - 000 ft to
the top of Kilimanjaro
0:23:06.141 - 0:23:08.658
that it's essential to have a good guide.
0:23:08.658 - 0:23:12.683
How many times have you climbed it?
Six times now. Yes.
0:23:12.683 - 0:23:14.610
Have you enjoyed all of them?
0:23:14.610 - 0:23:24.480
I enjoy all of them to an extent. They all
hurt, but the the pain actually
0:23:24.480 - 0:23:30.880
is forgotten eventually and you remember the good
things. A year later, I think not not actually so
0:23:30.880 - 0:23:38.880
so much. Well, in theory, this is what should
happen. Four days up and one day down. But in
0:23:38.880 - 0:23:45.680
between that, there could be a lot of hitches like
altitude sickness, generally being knackered and
0:23:45.680 - 0:23:52.309
miserable. But I'm going to try very hard
on this one. Very hard indeed.
0:23:53.081 - 0:23:59.120
Four days of walking through like a forest and then
you come out of the forest and you see Kilimanjaro
0:23:59.120 - 0:24:01.363
for the first time, which is just stunning.
0:24:01.363 - 0:24:05.359
There it is. That's my first glimpse of the mountain.
0:24:05.600 - 0:24:10.480
I mean, it's beautiful. Perfect, romantic
volcano up there and with a little sliver of
0:24:10.480 - 0:24:16.240
ice on top. You're just like, "What? It looks so
far. It's miles away." Oh. Then you've got another
0:24:16.240 - 0:24:23.040
two days cuz you're climatizing and it's rocks and
then it's ash and you're like the time you get to
0:24:23.040 - 0:24:24.789
this base camp...
0:24:26.286 - 0:24:30.990
Altitude sickness. It's like your
head's caught in a vice like that. And like you
0:24:31.280 - 0:24:36.400
talk to someone and he's like, "Yeah, well when"
I was like, "Why do people do it?" like to the guide
0:24:36.400 - 0:24:43.360
And he said, "Yeah, that's, you know-" oh
actually no, that was the the Masai tribe.
0:24:43.360 - 0:24:48.560
You know, "we've lived around the mountain, love
the mountain, and we appreciate the mountain,
0:24:48.560 - 0:24:52.560
but I never want to climb it." I was like, "As
soon as the white man comes, all he's like,
0:24:52.560 - 0:25:00.640
wha, a mountain? Wow, let's get up there." And
they're like, "Why? Why?" And I'm like, "I'm with
0:25:00.640 - 0:25:02.175
you. Why? Why?
0:25:02.416 - 0:25:08.400
Why? She say, "I've been there.
been there done that".
Is that why?
"Took it off my list."
0:25:08.593 - 0:25:14.160
Yeah. I don't know. No. The most important thing
I think is to have an image of yourself on top of
0:25:14.160 - 0:25:19.200
the mountain. There's no greater accomplishment.
I mean, it can be compared with sex in my opinion.
0:25:19.200 - 0:25:23.520
I kind of got emotional. So, it'd be good
to have sex up there then, wouldn't it? Oh,
0:25:23.520 - 0:25:28.640
yeah. I mean, that's something I haven't done.
That would probably be very nice. Yes. I kind of
0:25:28.640 - 0:25:32.240
wanted to burst out in tears. I don't know if
it was cuz I was so tired or what, but it was
0:25:32.240 - 0:25:35.741
it was the toughest thing I'd ever done. And so
it was a real sense of accomplishment.
0:25:35.741 - 0:25:41.200
I'm not, you know, so like you said, so there you are.
You're in your hut. You know, you've got to
0:25:41.200 - 0:25:46.000
get- it's pitch dark. You know, you got to
get up at 2:00 in the morning to catch the sun
0:25:46.000 - 0:25:51.440
rise. Your head's squashed together. You're not
going to get any sleep at all. You're just like
0:25:51.440 - 0:25:59.360
that. And then you get up, it's freezing outside.
Freezing. You know, you got all your layers on,
0:25:59.360 - 0:26:04.320
which you know soon you're going to have to take
off cuz it's hot. And then I was just plodding
0:26:04.320 - 0:26:11.040
along. The only reason why it's all on scree, so
it's two steps up, one step down, and you're like
0:26:11.040 - 0:26:16.880
zigzagging. And the only reason I got cuz I could
see a pair of guys, white trainers and in front of
0:26:16.880 - 0:26:23.760
I just followed them like that. And that was it.
It's just like God, it was just hell. And other
0:26:23.760 - 0:26:29.040
people, even walkers and climbers said, yeah, no,
because it's just straight up that is hell. And
0:26:29.040 - 0:26:36.000
it is. And by, you know, 5 hours, you're just
I don't care in the end of it. I know. I know.
0:26:36.000 - 0:26:41.040
I should have be a bit more, you know, and then
you get to the top. Yeah. It's a beautiful view
0:26:41.040 - 0:26:45.440
sort of. And it was just- that's why I'm glad that
they let me do that piece of camera where you say
0:26:45.440 - 0:26:50.320
like at the end saying, "Yeah, you know, you know,
when you know, it's hard and it was tough, but
0:26:50.320 - 0:26:57.920
you have that sensation, that awe of like, wow,
I've achieved something. Oh, it was all worth it!"
0:27:03.680 - 0:27:10.640
It's been a six-hour climb to get here to Gilman's
Point just to see the sunrise. And although it's
0:27:10.640 - 0:27:18.320
been a really hard climb and it almost killed me,
you know that sense of achievement that you get
0:27:18.320 - 0:27:27.280
at the end. Well, I haven't got it at all. I hated
it. It nearly killed me. It's not better than sex.
0:27:27.280 - 0:27:28.966
and I feel like dying. Yeah.
0:27:28.966 - 0:27:33.120
So it's nice that
you can say that. Even now people are well he's
0:27:33.120 - 0:27:37.760
a cocky position even on you know British
television one of those right to replies
0:27:37.760 - 0:27:42.240
they like he was in a privileged position to be
climbing up the mountain and all he does
0:27:42.240 - 0:27:46.960
is moan when he gets on top, it's out of order
but everyone says oh it's wonderful view, it's everything!
0:27:46.960 - 0:27:52.306
But honestly I just didn't care by the
end of it, it's like "just get me out of here, I'm so knackered."
0:27:52.692 - 0:28:00.800
Well that is why Globe Trekker was such
a groundbreaking travel show. Yeah. We got
0:28:00.800 - 0:28:07.280
to say what was true for us. Like I remember when
we were in the Galapicos Islands in Ecuador and I
0:28:07.280 - 0:28:11.920
I get seasick if I just say the word boat. Like
I just said the word. I feel nauseous. And I'm
0:28:11.920 - 0:28:18.480
not exaggerating. I feel it here. Like I really-
It's so bizarre. And so there I was in the most
0:28:18.480 - 0:28:22.000
beautiful boat in the most beautiful place
in the world. And the director says to me,
[Ian making boat sounds]
0:28:22.000 - 0:28:30.902
Stop!
That was that was wrong of me.
That was so wrong. Hold on one second.
0:28:30.902 - 0:28:34.881
[Justine pretends to vomit]
0:28:35.440 - 0:28:41.077
Sorry. That was- I apologize.
Yeah. Okay.
Go on. You're in the boat.
0:28:42.187 - 0:28:44.560
I'm on this boat, this
0:28:44.560 - 0:28:48.298
incredible boat in the most extraordinary place
in the world.
0:28:50.000 - 0:28:52.800
And Peter Boyd Maclean was the director.
0:28:52.800 - 0:28:57.280
He's like, "All right, Justine, you know, can you
come up onto the boat? Give us a piece to camera.
0:28:57.280 - 0:29:02.346
tell us what you're feeling." And I basically said,
I feel like throwing up. I feel really sick.
0:29:03.978 - 0:29:09.797
I had a horrible night sleep. This is my first morning.
0:29:09.797 - 0:29:12.824
And as you can see, I don't have my legs yet.
0:29:17.120 - 0:29:18.400
They say it takes, you know,
0:29:18.400 - 0:29:23.360
the first or second day to get over this
and then I'll be fine. I'll be fine.
0:29:25.677 - 0:29:32.080
When that cut was submitted to the- I
think it was the Australians, they said oh
0:29:32.080 - 0:29:38.640
you have to cut that, and Ian Cross
to his credit said no no no that's that's part
0:29:38.640 - 0:29:43.040
of what travel is and that's her experience
right? And that's what the show is really
0:29:43.040 - 0:29:50.000
all about, but then everybody in the office knew
like "Justine and boats, Justine and boats" right ?
0:29:50.000 - 0:29:52.049
Yeah get her in a boat!
0:29:52.049 - 0:29:54.794
Right so then we were
doing a shoot in the Eastern Caribbean
0:29:54.794 - 0:30:02.024
okay, how do you get around islands? to get from island
to island? [Ian makes boat sounds] Oh god, I can't- Hold on one second.
0:30:02.024 - 0:30:08.808
[Justine pretends to vomit again]
0:30:09.431 - 0:30:11.094
Oh no. Is that a squall?
0:30:11.094 - 0:30:15.200
So yeah, we had to
cross from one island to another when we were in
0:30:15.200 - 0:30:20.080
the Eastern Caribbean. This is nothing to do with
volcanoes. Oh no, no, no. Actually, this does have
0:30:20.080 - 0:30:29.760
to do with volcanoes. We had to cross from Grenada
to Carriacou and we're taking a boat and I was nervous
0:30:29.760 - 0:30:33.680
just because I knew we were going to be on a boat,
but there was really no other way to get there. I
0:30:33.680 - 0:30:37.383
did not want to take a plane. I don't even know if
there was an airport where we were going.
0:30:38.059 - 0:30:42.054
So, you know, we get on the boat and it's like a
small cargo boat.
0:30:42.054 - 0:30:47.553
There's some islands around here that are supposedly really beautiful, but they're
a little difficult to get to.
0:30:47.553 - 0:30:48.320
Aren't you helping?
0:30:50.000 - 0:30:55.520
Where there's a will, there's a way. Sometimes
you can find these cargo boats and if you pay
0:30:55.520 - 0:31:03.280
a little bit of money and you pitch in, then
you can hitch a ride with them. Thanks. God,
0:31:03.280 - 0:31:08.189
what's in this? What are in what's in here?
Gas. That's comforting.
0:31:08.865 - 0:31:10.880
It's taking canisters
0:31:10.880 - 0:31:17.120
of butane. There were loads of soda pop bottles.
You couldn't really stand anywhere on the boat
0:31:17.120 - 0:31:23.040
because it was just covered with cargo. And
at a certain point I was already nauseous just
0:31:23.040 - 0:31:29.600
being on the point and then all of a sudden
the boat goes crazy. I mean it just starts
0:31:29.600 - 0:31:35.840
rocking and I was terrified. But it turned
out that they knew that this was going to
0:31:35.840 - 0:31:43.200
happen because at that point our boat was
going over an active underwater volcano.
0:31:44.560 - 0:31:51.040
It's a little choppy. Little choppy. Well, the
reason why it's choppy and sort of rough around
0:31:51.040 - 0:31:58.409
because there there's an underground volcano.
We're going over an underground volcano? Exactly.
0:31:59.326 - 0:32:03.840
They call it kick and Jimmy.
What' you say? Kick and Jimmy.
0:32:03.840 - 0:32:10.400
Why is that? Because the waves kick like a mule.
0:32:10.400 - 0:32:14.802
Bloody hell. Wow. Lucky you didn't go diving.
0:32:14.802 - 0:32:16.960
It was weird because it was this beautiful clear
0:32:16.960 - 0:32:22.400
day and then all of a sudden it felt like
we were in this terrible, terrible storm,
0:32:22.400 - 0:32:26.240
but the storm was coming from underneath
us. So, it was still a beautiful day,
0:32:26.240 - 0:32:33.520
but the boat was being thrown around. Yeah. I was
pinned to the door, it was the only place I could
0:32:33.520 - 0:32:40.400
sit cuz everywhere else were butane gas canisters.
And I was just vomiting and vomiting.
0:32:40.400 - 0:32:46.160
I tell you what it is. It's like, it's amazing that
you can it doesn't matter what it's like you can
0:32:46.160 - 0:32:52.240
still have a shitty day in paradise, you know,
and everybody's like this should
0:32:52.240 - 0:32:58.480
be heaven but I'm having a shitty day. It's like
you described the best boat, best scenery,
0:32:58.480 - 0:33:04.320
what more- you going from island to island in the
Caribbean, but you're having a shitty day. But
0:33:04.320 - 0:33:09.040
that's life.
Well you know there's an amazing sequence
of you Ian where you seem like you almost had
0:33:09.040 - 0:33:15.554
another close to Vanuatu experience where you were
at the volcano in Réunion Island in the Indian Ocean
0:33:15.554 - 0:33:17.213
Piton de la Fournaise?
0:33:17.213 - 0:33:18.285
Yeah. Yeah.
0:33:20.000 - 0:33:23.727
You were riding your motorcycle there. Yes. Yeah.
0:33:29.520 - 0:33:36.320
Oh that is it for me. I am freezing. Oh,
this weather is unbelievable. It just chops
0:33:36.320 - 0:33:46.693
and changes. Like one minute it's sunshine,
then it's like foggy, and now it's raining.
0:33:51.520 - 0:33:56.640
Oh, it's like about 2:00 in the morning now
and I can't sleep cuz I'm a bit worried about
0:33:56.640 - 0:34:03.520
the volcano. Yeah, cuz it's erupted, like, I think
it's 30 times in the last 7 years. And this heart
0:34:03.520 - 0:34:08.800
is right at the foot of the volcano. Yeah, it's
getting a bit scary. I don't want to end up like,
0:34:08.800 - 0:34:14.800
you know, we all know about Pompei. It's like
in an ash museum like that. It's just a bit. And
0:34:14.800 - 0:34:20.291
there's a snorer. I don't even know if the volcano
is erupting or it's just snoring. It's driving me mad.
0:34:21.884 - 0:34:26.530
Oh, I'll just try anyways.
[snoring continues]
Ian: Shut up!
0:34:28.027 - 0:34:31.087
And if the weather
hadn't been bad, you might have been able to get
0:34:31.280 - 0:34:33.652
closer to it.
Yeah. Yeah.
0:34:33.652 - 0:34:37.039
I can't believe it. I've been waiting in that stinky hut.
0:34:37.280 - 0:34:43.360
Yeah. For 3 days and the weather ain't changed.
Look at it. It's rubbish. It's like rainy, foggy,
0:34:43.360 - 0:34:47.617
misty. I can't even get up the volcano.
What a waste of time.
0:34:49.355 - 0:34:52.400
Do you remember the smell
0:34:52.400 - 0:35:00.800
of it? Because when I was climbing the volcano in
in Guatemala, Picaya, everyone was talking about,
0:35:00.800 - 0:35:05.280
oh, make sure you know, you're going at the right
time and the winds in the right direction because
0:35:05.280 - 0:35:12.091
that volcano releases toxic gases. Did you
remember the smell of the volcano?
0:35:12.091 - 0:35:19.600
It's that bitter sulfur smell that gets in your nostrils.
Doesn't make make you gag like you
0:35:19.600 - 0:35:26.047
know like dog poo or something like that but
it's just that- "oh Jesus oh"
0:35:26.047 - 0:35:30.537
I heard about these toxic gases
0:35:30.537 - 0:35:35.240
yeah every active volcano has
very toxic gases
0:35:35.240 - 0:35:43.760
however the wind is blowing from the north today so the gases are going
to be going away from where we are climbing
0:35:46.320 - 0:35:50.640
I mean, you just sort of count on the fact that
the guide that you're with knows where the wind is
0:35:50.640 - 0:35:55.440
going, but when we got up to the top, the wind was going everywhere
Well of course!
And I thought, well,
0:35:55.440 - 0:35:57.833
where are the toxic gases?
0:35:57.833 - 0:36:02.789
He was he was halfway
down the mountain. "You're on your own, Justine!"
0:36:09.499 - 0:36:12.260
And it was- we were above the clouds.
0:36:12.260 - 0:36:13.515
Yeah.
0:36:13.515 - 0:36:17.786
The lava's pouring down the volcano.
0:36:18.559 - 0:36:21.128
It is almost like Lord of the Rings, Smeagol going into Mordor
0:36:21.128 - 0:36:27.016
and you feel like, "Oh my god, I'm entering some kind of dodgy fantasy land."
0:36:28.030 - 0:36:32.207
Can I say another? The only
fact that that's prompt me to actually remember
0:36:32.400 - 0:36:40.240
that there's a volcano that's blue lava. Have you ever seen that?
No!
I swear to God. Yeah. There's
0:36:40.240 - 0:36:45.920
something about the sulfur, the chemicals
that is actually blue. I'm not even shitting you
0:36:45.920 - 0:36:48.024
there. It really is extraordinary.
0:36:48.941 - 0:36:53.563
You've never
seen anything like it. It's brilliant.
0:36:54.480 - 0:36:59.600
But also, can I just say just one thing? The the one
place that I have never been and looks the
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nuttiest. I just can't get my head around it.
Even how it works is when I saw your program
0:37:05.120 - 0:37:10.160
when you was in Pompei with the volcan-
and the bodies and and the the frescos
0:37:10.160 - 0:37:16.720
and the the tiled floors like you said it
was just like it'd been made yesterday and
0:37:16.720 - 0:37:22.892
then you've got these bodies. I- it's just-
tell me about that because it's just nuts.
0:37:25.280 - 0:37:31.291
Justine VO: Naples is situated on the bay
overlooked by the active volcano Vesuvius.
0:37:47.680 - 0:37:51.680
Justine VO: You know, I wanted to be an archaeologist
for first year of college. I was studying
0:37:51.680 - 0:37:58.218
archaeology and I'd seen slides of Pompeii
and heard about Pompeii. But being there...
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ancient Pompeii was a bustling, wealthy port when
on August 24th, 79 AD, the mighty Vesuvius exploded.
0:38:12.320 - 0:38:18.960
Fiery ash and pumis stone covered the entire town,
stopping life in its tracks and preserving a piece
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of history under its crust.
0:38:21.093 - 0:38:24.544
I mean, imagine
Ian, you're going about your day, right?
0:38:24.544 - 0:38:33.380
And Vesuvius, the volcano that you hear from time
to time, it erupts and within seconds,
0:38:33.380 - 0:38:40.029
you know, the toxic gases are knocking people out and
then the ash gets into their mouth
0:38:40.029 - 0:38:47.316
on their body and you know, the the body disintegrates
with time, but that ash leaves a kind of mold
0:38:47.316 - 0:38:50.499
and so you actually see-
-that makes no sense to me-
-the position people were in.
0:38:50.499 - 0:38:52.459
No, that's-
-when they were hit.
0:38:52.459 - 0:38:59.130
Yeah. It's almost
like it's obviously it's like caught in time and it goes that that almost to the moment.
0:38:59.130 - 0:39:03.167
Yes, you see-
And I can't imagine seeing them bodies
0:39:03.360 - 0:39:10.000
and stuff that and also how you describe how
the bodies are formed makes no sense to me.
0:39:11.255 - 0:39:16.880
But it's like you're in some- it's like you're
in- like you said you're in someone's house.
0:39:18.640 - 0:39:26.560
The main attraction here are the mysterious
frescos that give the villa its name.
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The paintings depict the initiation of a young
woman into the cult of Bacchus, the god of wine.
0:39:32.400 - 0:39:39.273
The cult was secretive even in Roman times, but
rumors of their drunken orgies were legendary.
0:39:43.280 - 0:39:50.400
It's just amazing. And these frescos were painted
2 - 000 years ago and they still look perfect. I
0:39:50.400 - 0:39:54.960
feel like I'm inside somebody's house. That's
really the amazing thing about Pompeii is there's
0:39:54.960 - 0:39:58.800
no barriers. You can get so close to the fresco.
You can walk on the tiled floors. You feel like
0:39:58.800 - 0:40:01.189
you're walking through other people's homes.
0:40:01.189 - 0:40:05.698
Ian: Madness...
I mean, I was like 30 when I was there and it's like, oh my gosh,
0:40:05.698 - 0:40:10.207
you can live in this
absolutely extraordinary home and then in a
0:40:10.400 - 0:40:17.451
moment you're this-
Gone.
Yeah, an ash covered mold of a human.
0:40:17.741 - 0:40:21.807
It's like you're right here when the
0:40:22.000 - 0:40:28.807
volcano happened. It's not at all like a
museum. It's actually a bit overwhelming.
0:40:33.200 - 0:40:37.760
And it's not unlike, you know, here I am
in Berkeley, California near San Francisco.
0:40:37.760 - 0:40:42.480
You know, an earthquake could hit in the
middle of this conversation, you know,
0:40:42.480 - 0:40:46.160
like we have no control over when these things
happen. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Of course. Oh, god. Yeah.
0:40:46.160 - 0:40:52.320
Anyone could die like that. It's just, you know,
doesn't matter what happens. Of course, you can.
0:40:52.320 - 0:40:57.680
And that exact same thing when I I remember
in 1980 when Mount St. Helens blew in Washington,
0:40:57.680 - 0:41:03.040
which is, you know, just the state north of
California, two states north of California,
0:41:03.040 - 0:41:09.040
and I think like 57 people were like killed
instantly. Who were in a campground
0:41:09.040 - 0:41:14.960
nearby. And and when I watched the episode in
the Pacific Northwest that Sammy Sabidi hosted,
0:41:14.960 - 0:41:22.240
he speaks with a survivor, someone who got out
in the nick of time from the explosion at
0:41:22.240 - 0:41:29.520
at Mount St. Helens. Yeah. And oh, he
still seemed to be quite traumatized
0:41:29.520 - 0:41:30.733
from the experience.
0:41:31.167 - 0:41:35.473
Yeah. We're actually hiking
on the top and the insides of the missing part
0:41:35.473 - 0:41:36.490
of Mount St. Helens.
0:41:36.780 - 0:41:40.000
Really? This was never
here before? No. The original valley floor is
0:41:40.080 - 0:41:46.960
about 200 feet below us. And it- this deposit
came off the volcano at about 100 m an hour,
0:41:46.960 - 0:41:51.115
sweeping down over here and then to where Charlie
was across the valley.
0:41:51.115 - 0:41:52.560
200 ft. I mean, I just
0:41:52.560 - 0:42:00.560
can't imagine 200 plus feet of this on top of the
campsite where we were, let alone the people that
0:42:00.560 - 0:42:01.684
were there with us.
0:42:02.746 - 0:42:05.222
Must be kind of eerie.
It's very eerie.
0:42:06.236 - 0:42:08.640
You know, I saw this huge cloud and
0:42:08.640 - 0:42:11.739
I saw it coming. Just had no idea that this is
what it was.
0:42:12.656 - 0:42:14.240
What did you hear? Because it's
0:42:14.240 - 0:42:17.543
quite quiet now. It's quite still.
It was quieter that morning.
0:42:17.543 - 0:42:24.983
You know, when you first woke up, it was like I said, it was the the raw silence I
think anybody could ever hear.
0:42:24.983 - 0:42:27.854
There wasn't a bird sound. It wasn't a chirp.
0:42:27.854 - 0:42:30.197
Wasn't a breeze of wind.
It wasn't anything.
0:42:30.197 - 0:42:33.840
And in a matter of 2 minutes, it changed.
0:42:33.840 - 0:42:40.475
Suddenly, you're seeing animals run.
You're seeing birds fly, tree branches are flying at you.
0:42:40.475 - 0:42:46.277
And so, from that moment forward, I just
took off down a dirt road.
0:42:46.277 - 0:42:49.636
And it wasn't even that wide. I mean, there were trees on both sides.
0:42:49.636 - 0:42:55.977
And then suddenly, I could look in my rearview mirror and I could just see this rolling.
0:42:55.977 - 0:42:59.052
I could just see it tumble, tumble.
0:42:59.052 - 0:43:04.341
Just so you get the perspective of what this is, I brought some
photographs down that we were able to take.
0:43:04.341 - 0:43:07.719
That's the wall that you can see coming at you.
0:43:07.719 - 0:43:11.271
You just get this sense of how incredibly big this is.
0:43:13.636 - 0:43:15.977
This is what you saw coming to you?
0:43:15.977 - 0:43:18.823
Yes. And you're just running for your life.
0:43:18.823 - 0:43:22.579
I see it, yeah. You're just running for your life.
Jeez.
0:43:22.579 - 0:43:27.494
Going 150 mph. And that's what creates all of this.
0:43:27.494 - 0:43:31.840
My sense of it is is, you know, how small you are when it
0:43:31.840 - 0:43:35.914
comes to something of this magnitude. And right, there were lots of folks affected that day.
0:43:35.914 - 0:43:38.513
A lot of folks that didn't make it home.
0:43:39.334 - 0:43:43.232
You're a lucky man.
I feel that way.
0:43:43.232 - 0:43:44.531
I think about it all the time.
0:43:44.965 - 0:43:52.195
I mean, it's like and also, you know, if it's huge, you
can wipe out half the planet, I imagine.
0:43:52.195 - 0:43:56.880
Oh, maybe not that. But even in Iceland when
that one went up cuz I was went there,
0:43:57.556 - 0:44:03.280
I had been there and then about a year later or
something. Ridiculous explosion. All the dust
0:44:03.280 - 0:44:11.040
cloud came over Europe. Everyone was grounded
for, you know, 3-4 months, no planes, no nothing.
0:44:11.040 - 0:44:16.000
And it was just like, wow.
Oh, that's right!
And that was just the ash just covered Europe and just all part-
0:44:16.000 - 0:44:20.281
you know, we went "I can't see a thing!" It was all
the particles in the air. So there's no-
0:44:20.281 - 0:44:21.725
What year was that?
0:44:21.725 - 0:44:26.559
2010 I think that was, which could
have gone on for, I mean, if that had have been
0:44:26.800 - 0:44:33.120
much bigger then you would have probably and say
it lasted 10 years of covering, that would
0:44:33.120 - 0:44:39.600
have destroyed the whole of Europe in 10
years like that with economy, with travel, with
0:44:39.600 - 0:44:44.880
you know earning with everything you know cuz
you couldn't do anything so we Europe would
0:44:44.880 - 0:44:50.960
have just been no more. It would just have been
a disaster zone, you know, absolutely crazy isn't it?
0:44:50.960 - 0:44:55.606
And it can happen. I mean there's, what, 44 active
volcanoes as we speak.
0:44:55.606 - 0:45:02.402
Yeah. Yes. I mean it's like where's the program that was watching was
Crackatoa in Indonesia?
0:45:02.402 - 0:45:07.094
Everyone- that was when you was a kid you learned about Krakatoa which
blew up
0:45:07.094 - 0:45:10.743
and you could hear the explosion in bloody Australia and Sri Lanka
0:45:10.743 - 0:45:16.240
and there was like ripples
in the Thames or something and you know and the ash
0:45:16.240 - 0:45:22.640
there must have destroyed a huge amount, you know.
So, like you say, you're only that far away from
0:45:22.640 - 0:45:25.013
it. You know that it could happen.
0:45:25.013 - 0:45:30.785
I remember reading that, you know, Edvard Munch? The painting of the Scream?
Norwegian.
0:45:30.785 - 0:45:33.921
Yeah. Remember that
painting?
Yes. Yeah.
0:45:33.921 - 0:45:38.608
So, apparently the scream, you know, might have been inspired by
0:45:38.608 - 0:45:43.945
the sort of red volcanic aerosol cloud that was formed from Krakatoa.
0:45:43.945 - 0:45:46.384
Sort of makes sense when you look at
that painting-
0:45:46.384 - 0:45:54.801
It sort of makes sense? He's living in Oslo in Norway and then he's like- there's
a bit of gas coming over from bloody Indonesia.
0:45:54.801 - 0:45:56.981
Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
0:45:58.767 - 0:46:04.339
Imagine-
That's the first time I've heard that one. I'm just like-
JustineL red volcanic aerosol cloud
0:46:04.339 - 0:46:06.420
Yeah. Someone's trying to sell something.
0:46:06.420 - 0:46:12.816
Well, I remember, you know, a number of years back there were some really bad fires here in the Bay
Area.
0:46:14.844 - 0:46:21.554
Really bad fires. And I remember one morning,
you know, waking up around 6:00 in the morning. I look outside.
0:46:21.554 - 0:46:24.186
It was orange.
0:46:24.186 - 0:46:28.995
You know, like that color orange you see in lava that's
not even like a real color.
0:46:28.995 - 0:46:31.765
Like the sky was the color of lava.
0:46:31.765 - 0:46:34.937
I'm telling you, it felt
like the apocalypse was coming.
0:46:34.937 - 0:46:37.956
And yeah, that that was very scary.
0:46:37.956 - 0:46:40.164
But did we move? Do I
live in a different house?
0:46:40.164 - 0:46:43.736
Is it possible that that fire is going to come back around?
-Yeah, yeah that's true
0:46:43.736 - 0:46:47.097
It's just a matter of not if, but when?
0:46:47.097 - 0:46:47.862
And yet we live with it.
0:46:47.862 - 0:46:52.228
People live at the base of volcanoes and you know- Yeah.
0:46:52.228 - 0:46:57.098
At the base of a bloody, yeah exactly that, a little village. Why don't you go over there?
0:46:57.098 - 0:46:59.967
No, it's where we live, right?
0:46:59.967 - 0:47:02.341
People still buy houses on coastlines.
0:47:02.341 - 0:47:05.934
Yes. Yeah. Right.
And pay a lot!
0:47:05.934 - 0:47:08.989
Yeah. Oh dear. Yeah.
0:47:08.989 - 0:47:14.561
But anyway, I think it's David Attenborough, he had a show
with volcanoes.
0:47:14.561 - 0:47:16.468
Yeah.
I mean, it's so obvious.
0:47:16.468 - 0:47:24.997
I feel like an idiot even saying it out loud, but
yeah, just that it... the volcano is what brings more earth to the earth.
0:47:24.997 - 0:47:28.289
I mean, it's creating our our
land.
0:47:28.289 - 0:47:34.028
Our land is coming out of the volcano and creating layer upon layer upon layer.
0:47:34.028 - 0:47:41.359
It's this- the the furnace at our feet at all times on our looney planet.
0:47:41.359 - 0:47:46.530
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's
a little bit like I it might have been Hawaii or something
0:47:46.530 - 0:47:54.116
where there's like a quite a well-built
road and you see you're walking on it and then suddenly there's just ash and everything that's
0:47:54.116 - 0:47:58.668
just taking it over and then this you just go up on the ash and the road just stops like it's
0:47:58.668 - 0:48:03.273
gone right into the volcano. It's just crazy.
0:48:12.400 - 0:48:17.200
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